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That makes a lot of sense
10:50 PM
I've come to seee this too
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 10:51 PM
im stil ltrying to figure out how to astral project... i also feelthaty'll help improve my psychic abilites
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Went and found the direct quote because I wanted to "Yeah, I've also heard from others that breaking out of your usual routine helps spiritual practice. Easier to manifest new things if you don't expect the same thing over and over."
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I've definitely found that to be true.
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 10:52 PM
hmmm makers sense
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Whenever I experience the most, I'm doing new and different things in that time period
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 10:52 PM
i experence the most when im emotionally vulrable
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Cymon, idk you, but your pfp is 🔥
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 10:52 PM
i made it myself of my fursona!
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I like the colors you used
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 10:53 PM
made it using the photo editor of a nintendo 2DS
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 10:53 PM
if you nkow how a nintendo 2DS works... you'll know that's a crazy task
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Suffering brings on psychic/metaphysical experiences in nature. Those who are incredibly intuitive have often suffered more than their nonintuitive counterparts
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 10:54 PM
but i wouldnt let a horrible camera editor get the best of my art
10:54 PM
or trust me... im a huge ball of suffering mess.... i hurt so muc heveryday... it just doesnt effect me anymore
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I feel ya
10:55 PM
Its a blessing and a curse
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 10:56 PM
yeah
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a lot of spiritualists talk about reducing suffering completely as part of the spiritual journey. But idk. Isn't some suffering... kind of fun?
10:56 PM
Or am i just a masochist
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 10:57 PM
no... though when it comes to love... it's worth it until it's not anymore... and thats how breakups happen
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Yeah. I really want my next relationship to be my last. A lot of synchronicities have been telling me that the next one I get in my end up being my last
11:01 PM
*might end up
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Vondel The Dragon 12/23/2020 11:03 PM
when me and my ex met... something about him was different.. i got a crush on him... i had to tell huim... as it turned out... he had a crush on me and we gave a relationship a try and... we fell hard for eachother
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we werent together because.. of any reason other then... he was the person i wanted to share my life with!
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i loved him because.... he was alot like me... in a way that we were natural friends. we had the same goals. dreams... troubles.. we undertsood eachother... we were the first ones to truly understand eachother... he was someone worth fighting fo r... worth everythign... and he felt the same way
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Hello I've got a question, about telekinesis and tulpas and poltergeists, is it possible to create a tulpa or servitor or something similar than can magically knock things off shelves? (edited)
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Unfastened Belts 1/1/2021 7:11 AM
Probably not, but you should try anyway and report back!
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Yeah I suppose I could try, some people are actual occultists though so if consciously creating a poltergeist is possible maybe someone already knows ._.
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anon
Yeah I suppose I could try, some people are actual occultists though so if consciously creating a poltergeist is possible maybe someone already knows ._.
Lula! | 👻 1/1/2021 7:46 AM
Did I already talk to you about the occult server I'm on?
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You mentioned something about occult something.,
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What occult server (if you want to say)?
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Albino Elephant 1/1/2021 2:23 PM
So creating a normal tulpa that could move things would take either a lot of ability or time and I mean a lot. What you could do would be create a tulpa (possibly not fitting into the definition) bound to the object you want moved. The process for this should be the same as a normal tulpa except you will always invision it inside this object. You aren't going to be able to communicate with it as well and if you ever want to disconnect it from the object you are going to struggle. @anon
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I feel that if you were to make a Tulpa that could move objects around you risk the possibility of bringing in unnatural forces that only feign as Tulpas.
3:35 PM
So I wouldn’t personally recommend doing so, unless you don’t mind dealing with potentially exorcist level stuff
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Bemache yeah I was thinking about that sort of thing after typing that. I'm reminded of something about left-hand path occultism, not to say I know a lot about about it, where they dominate demons, or emanations of demons (and tulpas are called emanations or somehing like that in Tibet), and they have strong enough will to dominate the demon, and they make things become part of them. That reminds me of merging with tulpas, or merging with tulpas reminded me of that, or something like that. So if you wanted to conjure a poltergeist, something with physical effect, well maybe you'll be drawing a circle and getting the candles and it'll get magical and you'll want to know what you're doing. Maybe if you have a mental image or a sigil of the poltergeist/demon/whatever you can then do forcing and parroting on it, and merge it with servitors and things, until you have something that's not hostile to you and has its own intelligence and memory and will and personality, and can knock things off shelves to amaze scientists wew lads now there's a plan. Albino Elephant ah a lot of ability or time, I'm hoping for a shortcut where you can be someone who's not a wizard, but has a cardboard ouiji board (basically just a normal joe) he can use to get stuck with a poltergeist, but he manipulates it with mental techniques tulpa people have, and there you go, in a week you've got telekinesis xd (edited)
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Well I know that more often than not if you bring in demons to gain access to supernatural powers it leads to bad things, whether in this lifetime or another. If you’re planning to gain telekinesis for simply party tricks and curiosity I’m worried that the price to pay for it is more than what you gain out of it
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Also if you do it wrong you’re likely to be welcoming a demon into your body which would not only affect you, but it would affect your current Tulpas and the people closest to you. So even if you do gain telepathic powers you also risk losing a lot. It would be like gambling a million dollars to gain a hundred.
4:48 PM
And you’re playing against the house (edited)
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Yeah it might switch with me or something D:
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anon
Yeah it might switch with me or something D:
Or just take full possession of you and completely scramble your brain to the point that it kills your Tulpas and drives you to insanity
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But you may be able to break chains with your bare strength
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Yeah maybe you'd want to learn what you were doing before something like that :\
4:50 PM
It's said some people have poltergeists though so maybe that will be safe enough, idk xd (edited)
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a man with an impure spirit came from the tombs to meet him. This man lived in the tombs, and no one could bind him anymore, not even with a chain. For he had often been chained hand and foot, but he tore the chains apart and broke the irons on his feet. No one was strong enough to subdue him. Night and day among the tombs and in the hills he would cry out and cut himself with stones.
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was he legion?
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4:51 PM
o:
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anon
It's said some people have poltergeists though so maybe that will be safe enough, idk xd (edited)
A poltergeist is different from a possession demon, even if the demon can push objects
4:53 PM
Poltergeists are often tied to objects or locations, not people. Demons can be tied to anything. A poltergeist can’t possess a person and it won’t likely kill or harm them. Demons can, will, and often do.
4:54 PM
You trying to summon telekinetic powers aren’t going to bring a poltergeist however. It will most likely be a demon of sorts
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Hmm I've read and/or heard some people think poltergeists are part of or attached to a person though.
4:58 PM
It would be nice if was safe and simple for an average joe to summon telekinesis :\ I'm too hesitant to try now s:
4:58 PM
Maybe I'll try a servitor in an object.
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anon
It would be nice if was safe and simple for an average joe to summon telekinesis :\ I'm too hesitant to try now s:
It would be nice. But if it was easy and safe than it would be more common since telekinetic powers would be so helpful.
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At least with science you can make it safe and over time it gets easier
4:59 PM
Magic is dangerous and wild
4:59 PM
And it costs a lot
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Do you mean scientific telekinesis or science in general? What does magic cost?
5:01 PM
And what about sigil or ritual magic, aren't they not wild? (edited)
5:02 PM
Ooh here's an idea I could ask about this on an occult discord server too.
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anon
Do you mean scientific telekinesis or science in general? What does magic cost?
Science in general, but telekinesis in science isn’t impossible with the right knowledge and equipment. Magnetic hoverboards are actually a thing now so pushing stuff with magnets as if using telekinesis isn’t too outlandish. Magic often costs some physical or mental toll on the body. Especially with demonic powers, it’s often such a high price that what you gain from it isn’t worth the cost
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Hmm the impression I got is that if you have the willpower to dominate the demon it's fine.
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anon
And what about sigil or ritual magic, aren't they not wild? (edited)
No. Sigils or rituals still call upon an outside power (often demons) and the cost can vary from animals to self to others.
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Not to say I properly know.
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But the question is how much willpower?
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Wot do sigils use an outside power too? I don't mean a sigil of an entity, just a sigil of your intention (or something). idk how much willpower (edited)
5:05 PM
But if you make a servitor with a sigil though that's not outside power is it?
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anon
Wot do sigils use an outside power too? I don't mean a sigil of an entity, just a sigil of your intention (or something). idk how much willpower (edited)
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By "sigil or ritual magic" I meant "sigil magic or ritual magic".
5:09 PM
Making a sigil of what you want, like being better at painting (by means of improved mind's eye?). (edited)
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Idk this much detail about this subject (edited)
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I try to avoid learning about magic
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Really I just recommend avoiding trying to avoid it altogether if you can, since it’s dangerous enough to mess you and others around you up a lot
5:13 PM
But that’s just my opinions
5:14 PM
If you do avoid my warning and find a successful way of gaining telepathic powers without danger let me know
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Hmm I think I'd be all right with it if I properly learned and understood it when it came to external things. I think some magic should be safe, the placebo effect (idk if that's magic), and sigil magic (idk if that's magic), and servitors as long as you're careful with them (idk if that's magic)
5:18 PM
Yeah I think I should definitely (or probably or possibly) tell people if I actually do it, though I do wonder, if telekinesis is possible, then why don't people go around proving it? ):
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Placebo effect isn’t magic. Our bodies are capable of doing a lot more than we normally do because overexertion can kill us so our brain often limits our functionality so we don’t tear ourselves apart.
5:20 PM
The placebo effect makes the body think its got help so it’s Able to function better by removing mental barriers that come with feeling like it’s not receiving help
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I don't think that would explain how I cured allergies with the placebo effect though, and suppressed my hay fever. I've got a story about that actually.
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bemacbe
If you do avoid my warning and find a successful way of gaining telepathic powers without danger let me know
Unfastened Belts 1/1/2021 5:20 PM
Same tbh
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Hay fever used to give me itchy eyes. Once when I told someone I had hay fever, she said words to the effect of "that means you sneeze", but no, it did not make me sneeze. After that, hay fever made me sneeze.
5:23 PM
(I got my hay fever suddenly from being buried in a pile of grass cuttings. When I said this, someone said it could just be a coincidence.)
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I decided to stop taking an antihistamine drug that I had for hay fever, and use the placebo effect, and I did not have hay fever that summer. (Someone told me it could have just been a coincidence, but ha it was back the next summer) (edited)
5:24 PM
Now I keep my hay fever suppressed, I would prefer it gone completely.
5:24 PM
I once got a peanut allergy, so I ate a big bag of peanuts trying to mentally cure it, and after that I went back to not having it. (edited)
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Once I had a soya allergy for months or maybe even more than a year before I noticed it was an allergy to something I was eating. Eating soya, or just a sauce with soya in it made me sneeze and have a runny nose. Not long after I found out it was a soya allergy I stopped having it. (edited)
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So the mind can add a symptom to an allergy, and it can remove an allergy or reduce it to unnoticeable, and it can suppress an allergy.
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Albino Elephant 1/1/2021 5:31 PM
Sounds like you want psionics tbh
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I saw on a website, psi fandom wiki (about "psionics"), a page called TheAdfeng's technique stash, that you can create a construct, but that you should work with someone else who scans it to verify that you created what you think you created, so you can learn construct creating and scanning together, oh but I didn't have a fellow n00b to practice with, so I joined a psionics discord server where I read about tulpas and I've been obsessively learning about tulpas and servitors since then. (edited)
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All right then psionics all right then here I go, PSIONICS, maybe I'll start listening to debates online to practice not reacting with disagreement while not forgetting my own views, someone suggested doing something like that for some reason. (edited)
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Albino Elephant 1/1/2021 5:37 PM
Ooooo
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